Just a short PS to part 4. Elsie's currently sitting in the inn at Cenarion Hold, Silithus, that being the last flight point she got on her tour - she hit level 19 just before she got there. I think I covered most of the new points in part 4, but there are a couple more.
Not in any particular order.... let's see. Morgan's Vigil to Thorium Point is very definitely easier than Loch Modan/Badlands to Thorium Point. However, I've decided that using the spirit healer at Flame Crest actually slows things down a lot - it's better to just run along the road. There are ogres and orcs that will kill you, but you'll get to Blackrock Mountain in only a few deaths. Having run through there, you do have to run a bit to the north before your death brings you to Thorium Point graveyard - if you die earlier, you go to the new graveyard on the south edge of the Cauldron. Much less helpful. But again it's only a few deaths before you're at Thorium Point.
Light's Hope Chapel to Zul'Aman: I said I was going to experiment with going the long way round rather than past Browman's Mill. This did work better, but there is one thing to watch out for... falling into the Pestilent Scar is a Very Bad Thing which will cause you to die a lot. The problem is that if you got to Light's Hope Chapel the way I usually do - i.e. by dying in that half of the zone and rezzing in the graveyard there - you won't have the Pestilent Scar on your map until you discover it by falling in :p
Gadgetzan to Marshal's Refuge: I wondered if it might be any less horrible if I ran more or less west from Gadgetzan and tried to find a way through the mountains. Answer: it's slightly better, but not much, but you CAN jump down the mountainside into the crater. True, you do die at the bottom, but by that stage you've died every few seconds for the last half hour, so it's not a big deal!
More annoying, and something I forgot to mention in part 4, is that when you do wake up in Marshal's Refuge graveyard, Larion will kill you immediately if you use the spirit healer. Mean! It's still worth it though, because you can rez further up the slop and avoid him on your next death.
No more flight point obsession until Katisha etc. get to Outland, so I'll finish by sharing something that happened the other day that really amused me... I got a whisper in-game.
[22:04:06] [Jamock] whispers: hey
[22:04:11] To [Jamock]: ?
[22:04:24] [Jamock] whispers: can i aks ur age
[22:04:47] To [Jamock]: About 40 years older than you, judging by your spelling
[22:05:32] [Jamock] whispers: got keyboard probs
Hee!
Tuesday, 12 February 2008
Sunday, 10 February 2008
Concerning flight points, part 4
(The first three parts are here, here and here)
Well, I've been working on my flight points again in the last few days. Patience now has all the flight points, and I'm partway through Elsie's tour. I haven't been going out of my way to collect coins at the same time, but I've got quite a few. When I've completed the flight points, I plan to try and clear as many coins as possible on all my characters. (I ran out of time last year, so only Iolanthe has most of them - but I do have lists to tell me which ones the others haven't got. Sad or what?) Oh, and I realised that Gianetta and Hebe didn't have the new Zul'Aman flight point, so I took them both on an excursion.
Anyway, I promised an update to explain what effect the new graveyards etc. have had on insane flight point runs. The answer is: not as much as I'd thought, mainly because the new graveyards are not in the most useful of places, in my opinion (although it's possible that Blizzard didn't have players like me in mind when deciding where to put them!) Felwood is still the biggest nightmare, and there is no new graveyard there. I mean, come on - how hard would it have been to put a graveyard at Jaedenar?!? That zone is HUGE! Also, I made a big mistake - I came down from Moonglade instead of up from Ashenvale (because I'd got to Moonglade through the moonlight) and this turns out to be far, far worse. My advice to you: don't do that.
The first place I noticed changes was Tanaris (and Un'Goro). The run from Gadgetzan to Marshal's Refuge is now a bit easier. The Tanaris bit isn't that different, despite the addition of a new graveyard, because it's not in a helpful place - it's down in the south central part of the zone, so the only effect is that halfway through your slow death-every-step run, you start resurrecting in the new graveyard. It's just as far to run back to your corpse from there as it was when the only graveyard was Gadgetzan. However, once you're in Un'Goro, things are a bit improved. I knew there was a new graveyard over near the centre of the zone, but I never saw it while doing my usual run round the edge. Nothing was different until I died up near Fungal Rock, and woke up in another new graveyard... at Marshal's Refuge \o/
I tried a new method of getting to the Thorium Point flight point, because I knew there was at least one new graveyard in Searing Gorge (near the Cauldron) and that could only make things worse if I'd used my usual run-through-Badlands method. (You'll recall that this method had already become more painful thanks to the addition of a new graveyard in the Badlands - the only thing that made it bearable was the fact that as soon as you set foot anywhere in Searing Gorge, your next death took you to Thorium Point.) I'd just got the Morgan's Vigil flight point, and I decided to go to Flame Crest to get the coin. (This is easy because there's a graveyard there.) While waiting for the rez sickness to wear off, it occurred to me that it was probably worth a try going through Blackrock Mountain. Which I did, and it wasn't that bad - certainly nowhere near as the Badlands route. I did die a few times, obviously, but it wasn't too bad - and when I died in Searing Gorge, thankfully it *was* Thorium Point where I ended up, rather than any of the new graveyards. So I'll be using this route again.
There's also a very slight change to the Light's Hope Chapel run, because the graveyard at Darrowshire seems to have moved to Crown Guard Tower. This doesn't make a huge difference to the method listed in my previous post though, and in fact it's a good thing in terms of the Lunar Festival, because there's an Elder at Crown Guard Tower, and I doubt I would have bothered going out of my way to see him if I'd gone via Darrowshire.
And, finally, the new Zul'Aman flight point. Unsurprisingly the worst bit about the run to this one is getting away from Light's Hope Chapel. There's probably no way of doing this without dying several times (although next time I might experiment with running the long way round - it's Browman Mill that's the most dangerous). But once you're on the road you can go most of the way without being attacked, and then once you're in the Ghostlands it's easy. The only thing that puzzles me is this: if they can connect Ghostlands to the rest of the flight network (you fly through the portal) why can't they do the same for the Exodar? It's REALLY annoying!
Must sleep now. And try not to be haunted by a chilling line in the next patch notes: "Monstrous Kaliri have learned how to chase players going straight up." Argh!
Well, I've been working on my flight points again in the last few days. Patience now has all the flight points, and I'm partway through Elsie's tour. I haven't been going out of my way to collect coins at the same time, but I've got quite a few. When I've completed the flight points, I plan to try and clear as many coins as possible on all my characters. (I ran out of time last year, so only Iolanthe has most of them - but I do have lists to tell me which ones the others haven't got. Sad or what?) Oh, and I realised that Gianetta and Hebe didn't have the new Zul'Aman flight point, so I took them both on an excursion.
Anyway, I promised an update to explain what effect the new graveyards etc. have had on insane flight point runs. The answer is: not as much as I'd thought, mainly because the new graveyards are not in the most useful of places, in my opinion (although it's possible that Blizzard didn't have players like me in mind when deciding where to put them!) Felwood is still the biggest nightmare, and there is no new graveyard there. I mean, come on - how hard would it have been to put a graveyard at Jaedenar?!? That zone is HUGE! Also, I made a big mistake - I came down from Moonglade instead of up from Ashenvale (because I'd got to Moonglade through the moonlight) and this turns out to be far, far worse. My advice to you: don't do that.
The first place I noticed changes was Tanaris (and Un'Goro). The run from Gadgetzan to Marshal's Refuge is now a bit easier. The Tanaris bit isn't that different, despite the addition of a new graveyard, because it's not in a helpful place - it's down in the south central part of the zone, so the only effect is that halfway through your slow death-every-step run, you start resurrecting in the new graveyard. It's just as far to run back to your corpse from there as it was when the only graveyard was Gadgetzan. However, once you're in Un'Goro, things are a bit improved. I knew there was a new graveyard over near the centre of the zone, but I never saw it while doing my usual run round the edge. Nothing was different until I died up near Fungal Rock, and woke up in another new graveyard... at Marshal's Refuge \o/
I tried a new method of getting to the Thorium Point flight point, because I knew there was at least one new graveyard in Searing Gorge (near the Cauldron) and that could only make things worse if I'd used my usual run-through-Badlands method. (You'll recall that this method had already become more painful thanks to the addition of a new graveyard in the Badlands - the only thing that made it bearable was the fact that as soon as you set foot anywhere in Searing Gorge, your next death took you to Thorium Point.) I'd just got the Morgan's Vigil flight point, and I decided to go to Flame Crest to get the coin. (This is easy because there's a graveyard there.) While waiting for the rez sickness to wear off, it occurred to me that it was probably worth a try going through Blackrock Mountain. Which I did, and it wasn't that bad - certainly nowhere near as the Badlands route. I did die a few times, obviously, but it wasn't too bad - and when I died in Searing Gorge, thankfully it *was* Thorium Point where I ended up, rather than any of the new graveyards. So I'll be using this route again.
There's also a very slight change to the Light's Hope Chapel run, because the graveyard at Darrowshire seems to have moved to Crown Guard Tower. This doesn't make a huge difference to the method listed in my previous post though, and in fact it's a good thing in terms of the Lunar Festival, because there's an Elder at Crown Guard Tower, and I doubt I would have bothered going out of my way to see him if I'd gone via Darrowshire.
And, finally, the new Zul'Aman flight point. Unsurprisingly the worst bit about the run to this one is getting away from Light's Hope Chapel. There's probably no way of doing this without dying several times (although next time I might experiment with running the long way round - it's Browman Mill that's the most dangerous). But once you're on the road you can go most of the way without being attacked, and then once you're in the Ghostlands it's easy. The only thing that puzzles me is this: if they can connect Ghostlands to the rest of the flight network (you fly through the portal) why can't they do the same for the Exodar? It's REALLY annoying!
Must sleep now. And try not to be haunted by a chilling line in the next patch notes: "Monstrous Kaliri have learned how to chase players going straight up." Argh!
Wednesday, 6 February 2008
Lunar Festival time again!
Well, it seems to be months since I last wrote anything here, which was not my intention, but there you go. A brief update is in order - maybe I'll find time to go into more detail sometime soon!
I have two L70 characters now - Mabel got there a while ago. She's still got lots of quests to do - she's just gone into Netherstorm - so she is steadily earning money towards her epic flying mount. Iolanthe is still stuck on everything but has made a bit of progress - she's up to Black Morass in the instance list. She's still trying to make enough money to start the epic flight form quest, but has been slowed down by having to send money to her sisters. I'm hoping that soon she might get to finish the Ogri'la prequest chain (she has one step left), because that will open up some money-making daily quests. The Netherwing ones aren't an option because you can't start them until you have the epic flying skill (whatever it's called). But she's loving the daily cooking quests. The Skettis one is harder than all the others combined, so of course it seems to come up more often than all the others combined too. But the bonus is that while you're there you may as well do the daily bombing quest while you're there (I can never be bothered to fly there to do that one unless I'm doing the cooking quest too, but it's fun if you're there anyway). Mabel is doing the cooking quests too, but she finds the bombing much harder than Iolanthe because she has a flying mount rather than flight form, and the wings are much bigger - it's hard to see the eggs!
Katisha is L60 and is working her way through the higher Azeroth zones (yes, I know I could be in Outland, but it's me). She's currently in EPL. When she finally makes it to Outland I'll take her on the flight point tour - I haven't written about the Outland ones yet. Gianetta has been a bit neglected recently, but I plan to make it up to her soon - she's L32 and is in the Southshore inn. I did spend a bit of time with Hebe in Ashenvale - she still can't do the Absent Minded Prospector, even at L27 - but I was finding everything really difficult so I left her for a while too.
Patience is now L22 and is just finishing the Bloodmyst Isle quests. And since I last wrote, I finally got the urge to try the last class I hadn't done - a hunter. Elsie is now L18 - with a pet owl called Tevez (because when I got him, Man Utd were playing Liverpool, and Tevez had just scored) - and is killing stuff in Darkshore. I don't know why I wasn't inspired to try a hunter earlier, because it's great fun!
I haven't really played on the other servers much in the last few months. Santuzza and Eponine are exactly where they were - they kind of lost their reason for living when the person that they went to play with quit the game - and Madmargaret hasn't got very far. I've actually played her quite a bit, but I'm just really, really bad at it! It's many months since anyone else in the guild has been on Hellscream at the same time as her, so it's a bit demoralising.
Anyway, it was the Lunar Festival that inspired me to post. It reminded me that Patience and Elsie haven't yet done the flight point tour, so they may as well do that while collecting coins of ancestry. (It's the perfect time to collect flight points, because everyone can get the Moonglade one for free while the festival is on, and then use the moonlight to facilitate movement elsewhere.) All my other Dragonblight characters have all the flight points now, so they can all try to get the coins they didn't get last year. (I have decided to be restrained and not make Iolanthe go and get them all again...) This in turn reminded me that I need to edit my flight point guide, because several new graveyards have been added to the game since I wrote it, and they will affect things. However, I did the first part of the run tonight with Patience, and so far there are no changes - no new graveyard in Felwood, in particular, where it would really help. (I had to abandon Patience as a ghost in Irontree Woods, because the server went down for regular maintenance while I was still trying to get to the Emerald Sanctuary, and if I'd hearthed, it would have wasted probably two hours' effort.)
More when I've finished the tour - maybe at the weekend. I bet you can't wait :p
I have two L70 characters now - Mabel got there a while ago. She's still got lots of quests to do - she's just gone into Netherstorm - so she is steadily earning money towards her epic flying mount. Iolanthe is still stuck on everything but has made a bit of progress - she's up to Black Morass in the instance list. She's still trying to make enough money to start the epic flight form quest, but has been slowed down by having to send money to her sisters. I'm hoping that soon she might get to finish the Ogri'la prequest chain (she has one step left), because that will open up some money-making daily quests. The Netherwing ones aren't an option because you can't start them until you have the epic flying skill (whatever it's called). But she's loving the daily cooking quests. The Skettis one is harder than all the others combined, so of course it seems to come up more often than all the others combined too. But the bonus is that while you're there you may as well do the daily bombing quest while you're there (I can never be bothered to fly there to do that one unless I'm doing the cooking quest too, but it's fun if you're there anyway). Mabel is doing the cooking quests too, but she finds the bombing much harder than Iolanthe because she has a flying mount rather than flight form, and the wings are much bigger - it's hard to see the eggs!
Katisha is L60 and is working her way through the higher Azeroth zones (yes, I know I could be in Outland, but it's me). She's currently in EPL. When she finally makes it to Outland I'll take her on the flight point tour - I haven't written about the Outland ones yet. Gianetta has been a bit neglected recently, but I plan to make it up to her soon - she's L32 and is in the Southshore inn. I did spend a bit of time with Hebe in Ashenvale - she still can't do the Absent Minded Prospector, even at L27 - but I was finding everything really difficult so I left her for a while too.
Patience is now L22 and is just finishing the Bloodmyst Isle quests. And since I last wrote, I finally got the urge to try the last class I hadn't done - a hunter. Elsie is now L18 - with a pet owl called Tevez (because when I got him, Man Utd were playing Liverpool, and Tevez had just scored) - and is killing stuff in Darkshore. I don't know why I wasn't inspired to try a hunter earlier, because it's great fun!
I haven't really played on the other servers much in the last few months. Santuzza and Eponine are exactly where they were - they kind of lost their reason for living when the person that they went to play with quit the game - and Madmargaret hasn't got very far. I've actually played her quite a bit, but I'm just really, really bad at it! It's many months since anyone else in the guild has been on Hellscream at the same time as her, so it's a bit demoralising.
Anyway, it was the Lunar Festival that inspired me to post. It reminded me that Patience and Elsie haven't yet done the flight point tour, so they may as well do that while collecting coins of ancestry. (It's the perfect time to collect flight points, because everyone can get the Moonglade one for free while the festival is on, and then use the moonlight to facilitate movement elsewhere.) All my other Dragonblight characters have all the flight points now, so they can all try to get the coins they didn't get last year. (I have decided to be restrained and not make Iolanthe go and get them all again...) This in turn reminded me that I need to edit my flight point guide, because several new graveyards have been added to the game since I wrote it, and they will affect things. However, I did the first part of the run tonight with Patience, and so far there are no changes - no new graveyard in Felwood, in particular, where it would really help. (I had to abandon Patience as a ghost in Irontree Woods, because the server went down for regular maintenance while I was still trying to get to the Emerald Sanctuary, and if I'd hearthed, it would have wasted probably two hours' effort.)
More when I've finished the tour - maybe at the weekend. I bet you can't wait :p
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